Friday, May 22, 2020

Debunking Randy Shipley's anti-Trump Argument of August 2019 Part 4

Randy Shipley: [Name redacted] A lot of conservative interpretation and theories by you - no facts. 

False. Not only have I provided you with the facts, but an argument based on real-world observations. This is based on a historic trend of what happens when similar things happened in the past. My argument is also based on current events and on other observations that could fit the "if 'X' then 'Y'" formula.

Don't dismiss cold hard facts, or things based on observation, as "theory" simply because you don't like the facts being presented.

You, on the other hand, insist on advancing a strawman argument. You're also slowly drifting away from the argument and towards my actions.

That's not something you would do if you had the facts on your side. That's equivalent to "shooting and retreating" and "transitioning to insurgency mode" from a "conventional mode." That's not the action of someone who has the upper hand. Your actions indicate that you have neither fact nor a valid argument.

Randy Shipley: Job growth down, 

Just as you attempted to mix "deficit" and "debt" in your previous reply, you're attempting to mix "growth rate" and "actual growth".

According to an August 2, 2019, New York Times report, the growth rate slowed but remained solid... With 164,000 jobs added in July. Get that? "Added". Job growth is still job growth. When the liberal New York Times calls it "stable", it works against your attempt to downplay it.

These numbers will fluctuate on a by month basis, just as they've done under Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. The fact that you'd zero in on "job growth down" speaks volumes of your animosity against President Trump. Your anti-Trump animosity drives your responses on this thread and elsewhere.

Randy Shipley: deficits and debt up (both), 

Which is something they did in previous administrations. Had it not been for a Republican Congress back in the 1990s, we wouldn't have had the budget surpluses of the 1990s. The left likes to credit Clinton. If he had his way, spending would've skyrocketed and we wouldn't have had our surpluses.

Remember, Congress, not the President, is responsible for deficits and surpluses. They have the power of the purse. Congress makes the budget, Congress authorizes spending, Congress engages in spending, etc.

Randy Shipley: an investigation that indicted many (if it is a witch hunt, they caught the warlocks). 

Did any of these indictments involve knowingly colluding with Russian agents? YES [   ] NO [   ]

Copy and paste this question, and its yes/no options to your reply. Put an "X" in the box that represents your answer. Spare me any additional thoughts you'd want to add to this question. Your failure to answer this question will result in my asking it again in my next reply to you. 

Note: Randy Shipley repeatedly avoided questions like this.

None of the people indicted were indicted for anything having to do with Russian Collusion. None. That was the driving force behind the investigation. Meaning, the Russian Collusion investigation indicted members of the Trump Campaign, or Administration, for things not having to do with Russian Collusion.

I've read the indictment against the Russians. Guess what? Nothing in the indictment argued that anybody in the Trump Campaign willingly or knowingly colluded with Russians.

Randy Shipley: The investigation clearly showed Russian interference - just not evidene there was cooperation (there is no law against collusion).

I downloaded the Mueller Report and went through it. I still have it on my laptop. Mention of "cooperation" centered mainly on cooperation with the investigation. There was also mention of joint economic cooperation in correspondence leading up to a 2017 phone call between President Trump and President Putin.

However, when it comes to collusion, the report indicated that there was no knowing cooperation between anybody in the Trump campaign and the Russians. If any interaction and potential joint political operation were being talked about, the American side thought that they were dealing with politically allied Americans.

This is key, as the leftist/propagandist media made it sound like the Trump Campaign "knowingly and willingly" colluded with the Russians.

The purpose of the investigation centered on whether or not there was "knowing collusion" between members of the Trump Campaign and Russian agents. The mainstream media ran on this narrative. They also ran on the obstruction narrative. The report actually argued that there was no obstruction.

When asked if he was hindered in any way during his investigation, Mueller said, "No." Meaning, the two main narratives of the media fell flat on their faces. After going through the Mueller Report, I knew that his eventual testimony in Congress was going to end up as egg on the faces of the Democrats. 

As I mentioned, this was a witch hunt and no, they didn't catch warlocks. They indicted the cabbage man, the cobbler, the tailor, the butcher, etc., for charges unrelated to witchcraft, and they found no evidence of witchcraft. No witches or warlocks found because there weren't any.

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