Friday, May 22, 2020

Debunking Randy Shipley's anti-Trump Argument of August 2019 Part 3

Randy Shipley: While farm bankruptcies hit record highs?

Those farm bankruptcies have more to do with falling prices than they do with the tariffs. Tariffs do play a role. However, even without the tariffs, farm bankruptcies would've still gone up due to the price that comes with current supply and demand.

When supply exceeds demand, and prices drop, there are people who are going to incur more costs than earnings. If this happens too long, bankruptcies may occur. This was going to happen even without the "trade war".

Randy Shipley: You have presented no fact based arguments on what makes Trump a great president or leader,  

False. I provided a fact-based, reasoned, logical argument as to why President Trump is not what you guys describe him as... As well as to why he makes a great president and leader.

You, on the other hand, have colossally failed to present a fact-based, reasoned, argument. Instead, you've presented cherry-picked data to support a strawman argument. You've even attempted to argue as if "deficit" was interchangeable with debt. Your response failed to address any of the arguments that I advanced.

Randy Shipley: you simply regurgitate conservative rhetoric.

Again false. I don't enter an argument unless two criteria are met.

1. I have extensive first hand/studied experience in the topic being debated.

2. The opposition clearly does not know what they're talking about.

Both of these conditions have been met on this thread with my dismantling your argument. These conditions have also been met when I dismantled the arguments of the others on the left.

You, and the others that I've rebutted here, have repeated the same arguments I have debated against in previous arguments. It's like you guys are arguing from the same playbook.

Randy Shipley: Trump is corrupt, and has surrounded himself with corruption 

First, neither you nor the others that I've debated against since President Trump became president, have proven that President Trump is "corrupt". The facts indicate that he isn't corrupt. Want to see corruption? Look at politicians who have more net worth than what their annual congressional salary could explain. That's just one criterion.

President Trump is "so corrupt" that he's giving away his salary for donation to nonprofit causes. That makes him terrible at being corrupt.

Randy Shipley: (another little fact for you - no President has ever had the indictments against their team that Trump has - not even close)

Yet, you ignore the fact that there was a political witch-hunt against the president. This witch hunt, looking for Russian collusion, investigated people. These people were indicted for, you guessed it, something not having anything to do with Russian collusion.

This is like sending all of your friends to beat someone up. After that person gets beaten up, you walk to that person and make fun of him because people "want" to beat him up. Your point here has no validity, just like the rest of your argument.

However, the folks that were involved with getting this witch hunt underway, and the folks who were derelict in their duties, will be held accountable.

Note: Recently released transcript of the House investigation on "Russian Collusion" proved no concrete evidence of Russian Collusion. The conflicting stories told to the public leaves the potential for certain people to be held accountable.

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