Glenn Beck: Not one more life. Not one more life. Not one more dollar, not one more airplane, not one more bullet, not one more Marine, not one more arm or leg or eye. Not one more.
I'm sorry Glenn Beck, but I'm in one of the professions that you're speaking for. You neither speak for any of my comrade-at-arms nor for me.
The reality is that we have to do whatever it takes to defeat that threat. If we have to send more ground troops to neutralize the threat, so be it. I'd rather that we lose lives over there than to suffer a holocaust level of life lost over here.
Any argument that we no longer engage the Middle East is an argument for appeasement... And in favor for ultimate defeat on US soil.
I'm sorry, but the cold hard reality is that the problems over there will not disappear if we disengage. It would only follow us here. It's not a matter of "if" but "when."
And yes, we have to keep fighting this, even if it takes decades, or centuries. Our enemies have certainly been at work for approximately a millennia and some centuries. They do not intend to quit. Their fight with us is but a drop in the bucket.
Abdicating this war, and our responsibilities in it, invites their ultimate victory here. Just look at the landscape right now within the city. Just imagine seeing mosques were churches once stood. Picture all the women walking in the streets as being fully clothed in burqas.
That's just the beginning of the imagination that would become reality. The transition would be bloody and horrific. That's the future you're inviting when you say "no more."
Glenn Beck: The people of Iraq have got to work this out themselves.
Unfortunately, they do not have the time to work it out themselves. The stability and protection they need to be able to do this are simply not there.
It's easy for you to tell the Iraqis that they need to work things out for themselves. You live in relative stability and comfort within Western Civilization. You're not witnessing hundreds of people getting beheaded, maimed, raped, enslaved, kidnapped, etc.
ISIS is propagating the most savage form of psychological warfare to gain control of the populations that they're overrunning. It's working in those areas. Unfortunately for your suggestion, this works against them just sitting there and working things out for themselves.
Just look at what happened in 1930s Germany. It took outside intervention to reverse that.
In that part of the Middle East, people will congregate towards the groups that shows strength. It doesn't matter if this strength is a benefit to the world or not. If the bad guys are the ones showing strength and momentum, they're going to gain a bunch of people.
Violence of action/force, through brute strength, is what the enemy over there understands. If they are consistently subjected to it, they would bend. If the only way to do that is to reintroduce US military forces, so be it. Should that happen, we should not make the same mistakes we made at the end of 2011.
Glenn Beck: Our days of being the world's policemen, our days of interventionists is over.
That's not how the real world works. If the United States were to disappear overnight, another country will step in and do exactly what we're doing.
The cold hard reality is that every nation on the planet is doing some form of intervention beyond its borders. This could be economic, political, or military. What the United States is doing on a global scale, other countries are doing on a continental and regional scale.
What if the United States were to "stop" and do what Glenn Beck wanted it to do? In reality, another country will step in and do exactly what we're doing right now.
This is happening now, this has happened in the past, and this will happen long into the future. We're doomed to this cycle by the major fact that we are human beings. It's our nature to pursue our individual and collective interests.
Maybe we should have rejected the idea of being the world's "policemen" in the 1940s. After all, it was the perceived notion that the US was going to jump into the war that contributed to the Japanese decision to attack Pearl Harbor. Taking such action required us to be the world's "policemen".
Perhaps if there was no argument, in the United States, to break isolation, the Japanese would not have seen us as a threat? By logical extension, they would not have attacked us in Pearl Harbor?
We remain engaged in the world now for similar reasons for engaging it during the 1940s.
It was our interventions that played a role in preventing World War III from happening. Also, our collective consumer habits have contributed to the United States doing what it does overseas.
In order to have a stable economy back in the United States and elsewhere, we have to secure the trade routes, and areas where resources are extracted. We have to contribute to stability and security to allow economies to thrive.
Maybe we should just come back and not be the world's "policemen". I hope you can enjoy just a fraction of what the economy could provide today. We would be lucky to get that if we were to take your suggestion.
Perhaps you might say that we don't need to be strategically engaged throughout the world to have secure trading routes.
Ask our forefathers how that worked out. Hint, "Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute." Oh yeah, what was one of our complaints that got us into the war of 1812? Something about harassing American shipping, and pressing American sailors into British service?
Glenn Beck statements from GlennBeck.com; Enough is enough: bring them home, period., June 17, 2014.
I'm sorry Glenn Beck, but I'm in one of the professions that you're speaking for. You neither speak for any of my comrade-at-arms nor for me.
The reality is that we have to do whatever it takes to defeat that threat. If we have to send more ground troops to neutralize the threat, so be it. I'd rather that we lose lives over there than to suffer a holocaust level of life lost over here.
Any argument that we no longer engage the Middle East is an argument for appeasement... And in favor for ultimate defeat on US soil.
I'm sorry, but the cold hard reality is that the problems over there will not disappear if we disengage. It would only follow us here. It's not a matter of "if" but "when."
And yes, we have to keep fighting this, even if it takes decades, or centuries. Our enemies have certainly been at work for approximately a millennia and some centuries. They do not intend to quit. Their fight with us is but a drop in the bucket.
Abdicating this war, and our responsibilities in it, invites their ultimate victory here. Just look at the landscape right now within the city. Just imagine seeing mosques were churches once stood. Picture all the women walking in the streets as being fully clothed in burqas.
That's just the beginning of the imagination that would become reality. The transition would be bloody and horrific. That's the future you're inviting when you say "no more."
Glenn Beck: The people of Iraq have got to work this out themselves.
Unfortunately, they do not have the time to work it out themselves. The stability and protection they need to be able to do this are simply not there.
It's easy for you to tell the Iraqis that they need to work things out for themselves. You live in relative stability and comfort within Western Civilization. You're not witnessing hundreds of people getting beheaded, maimed, raped, enslaved, kidnapped, etc.
ISIS is propagating the most savage form of psychological warfare to gain control of the populations that they're overrunning. It's working in those areas. Unfortunately for your suggestion, this works against them just sitting there and working things out for themselves.
Just look at what happened in 1930s Germany. It took outside intervention to reverse that.
In that part of the Middle East, people will congregate towards the groups that shows strength. It doesn't matter if this strength is a benefit to the world or not. If the bad guys are the ones showing strength and momentum, they're going to gain a bunch of people.
Violence of action/force, through brute strength, is what the enemy over there understands. If they are consistently subjected to it, they would bend. If the only way to do that is to reintroduce US military forces, so be it. Should that happen, we should not make the same mistakes we made at the end of 2011.
Glenn Beck: Our days of being the world's policemen, our days of interventionists is over.
That's not how the real world works. If the United States were to disappear overnight, another country will step in and do exactly what we're doing.
The cold hard reality is that every nation on the planet is doing some form of intervention beyond its borders. This could be economic, political, or military. What the United States is doing on a global scale, other countries are doing on a continental and regional scale.
What if the United States were to "stop" and do what Glenn Beck wanted it to do? In reality, another country will step in and do exactly what we're doing right now.
This is happening now, this has happened in the past, and this will happen long into the future. We're doomed to this cycle by the major fact that we are human beings. It's our nature to pursue our individual and collective interests.
Maybe we should have rejected the idea of being the world's "policemen" in the 1940s. After all, it was the perceived notion that the US was going to jump into the war that contributed to the Japanese decision to attack Pearl Harbor. Taking such action required us to be the world's "policemen".
Perhaps if there was no argument, in the United States, to break isolation, the Japanese would not have seen us as a threat? By logical extension, they would not have attacked us in Pearl Harbor?
We remain engaged in the world now for similar reasons for engaging it during the 1940s.
It was our interventions that played a role in preventing World War III from happening. Also, our collective consumer habits have contributed to the United States doing what it does overseas.
In order to have a stable economy back in the United States and elsewhere, we have to secure the trade routes, and areas where resources are extracted. We have to contribute to stability and security to allow economies to thrive.
Maybe we should just come back and not be the world's "policemen". I hope you can enjoy just a fraction of what the economy could provide today. We would be lucky to get that if we were to take your suggestion.
Perhaps you might say that we don't need to be strategically engaged throughout the world to have secure trading routes.
Ask our forefathers how that worked out. Hint, "Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute." Oh yeah, what was one of our complaints that got us into the war of 1812? Something about harassing American shipping, and pressing American sailors into British service?
Glenn Beck statements from GlennBeck.com; Enough is enough: bring them home, period., June 17, 2014.
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